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Komunitas Realtek 1073 Media Player (AC Ryan, Astone, Seagate, Patriot, Egreat, dsb)
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Mengingat media player dengan chip realtek 1073 sudah mulai banyak dijual di Indonesia, mari kita berbagi pengetahuan tentang alat ini.


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What is a Media Player?

In the most basic of terms, a Media Player is a box you connect to your TV and Hi-Fi to play digital audio and video files.

Although simple Media Players have been around for a few years it is only recently that they have become both much cheaper and powerful enough to make them worthwhile. The reasons for recent developments in power and price are rooted in the processing chips used. If you're interested in Media Player chipset developments then check out our (fascinating?!) article on the subject here. Regardless of the technicalities of it all, the result is that there are now many Media Players available that are more capable in video playback terms than all but the most powerful computers.

For less than $90 / €85 / £60 you can buy a Media Player that will flawlessly play all 1080p Full-HD video.

Of course, the other big factor driving on the development of Media Players is the widespread availability of digital video content. We don't condone it, but it is a fact that all movies and TV shows are easily available for download. These days you can also easily find HD versions, providing HD content for HD Media Players. In addition, many people are seeing the sense of ripping all their existing DVDs / Blu-Rays to a hard drive for access via a Media Player. This is a more streamlined solution than fiddling around with boxes and a drive tray every day.

Most people already have large libraries of digital audio. This can also be accessed using a Media Player, so you can have one small box in your lounge delivering all your media content. Look out for the Media Players with a front LCD screen for accessing audio without having the TV turned on.

So, as people acquire ever more digital video content they are increasingly wanting to play it back via one simple box, on HD televisions around the home. The answer to this need is the Media Player.

Some Media Players are also capable of playing back content directly from the internet. Free services like Youtube, Flikr, and Picassa are often available. And by using a service like Netflix or Boxee, a vast variety of both paid and free content becomes available. At the moment this kind of functionality is rare but we expect it to become more common and very important in future. The future of Media Players will lie in paid on-demand content.

Various other features are also implemented in Media Players. Some have internet radio, some have inbuilt Bittorrent clients, some have web browsers. Again, there will be a widening of the features available as we move towards the inevitable future HD-on-demand world.

There are some TVs, Blu-Ray players, games consoles, and DVD players with rudimentary Media Players built in. The quality of the Media Player is any of these devices is significantly inferior to that of a stand-alone machine. When you consider that Media Players are relatively cheap and getting cheaper, we do not see a future for multi purpose devices of this kind. Both DVD and physical media will eventually (soon?) give way completely to Media Players, and replacing a TV is too expensive for it to be considered an alternative.

For these reasons we consider the only device that offer and alternative to a Media Player to be a Home Theatre PC (HTPC) or HD capable laptop with HDMI output. We also cover these on our site but for most people we think a Media Player is more suitable.
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Realtek Chip

HD MPEG1/2/4, H.264, VC1, RM/RMVB Decoder with Ethernet and HDMI

General Description
The RTD1073 is a highly integrated SoC for Consumer Electronics products requiring High Definition Media Playback, Wireless/Wired Networking, and Mass Storage capabilities.

Features
  • HD MPEG 1/2/4 & HD JPEG Decoder
  • HD H.264, VC1, RM/RMVB Decoder
  • AV Streaming/Transmission via Ethernet & WiFi
  • TV Encoder with CVBS/S-video/YPbPr/SCART out
  • HDMI v1.3 1080P
  • I2S, SPDIF out
  • USB2.0 Host & PHY
  • USB2.0 Device & PHY
  • SATA
  • Fast Ethernet MAC & PHY

Applications
  • HDD Media Player
  • Digital Media Adaptor/Server
  • Networked Media Module for Embedded CE device
Player berbasis Realtek yang sudah beredar di Indonesia :
  1. AC Ryan Playon : link
  2. Astone : link
  3. Egreat EG-R1 : link
  4. Patriot Box Office : link
  5. Seagate Freeagent Theater : link
  6. Zinwell : link
  7. Blue Times : link
  8. Mede8er link
  9. HiMedia HD 300A link
  10. Transcend HD Media Player DMP10 link


TOP 5 Media Player berbasis RealTek versi MPC Club
  1. Mede8er MED500X
  2. Xtreamer
  3. DVICO TViX M-6600N
  4. A.C.Ryan PlayOn!HD
  5. HMB Movie Palace
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Media Player Realtek 1073 Lainnya :
  1. Xtreamer http://xtreamer.net/
  2. Mvix Ultio http://www.mvixusa.com/ultio/1080p-h...heater-pc.html
  3. DVICO TViX M-6600N http://www.dvico.com/
  4. Himedia HD300D http://www.himedia-tech.cn
  5. Himedia HD300C http://www.himedia-tech.cn
  6. Hisense MP800H http://www.hisense.com/en/
  7. ASUS O!Play http://asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=sP...l5K&templete=2
  8. BlueAngel H16 http://www.blueangel.net.cn
  9. Diyomate S6 http://www.diyomate.com
  10. EAGET M880 http://www.eaget.com.cn
  11. Fake RCA L10 http://rcamedia.com.cn
  12. NSI A6 http://www.noontec.com
  13. MELE HMC-3916CIE http://www.mele.cn
  14. GIEC GK-HD100 http://www.giec.cn
  15. Datastorage HDPRO (Mede8ter MED500X) http://www.datastorage.com.cn
  16. Amoi V6 http://www.amoi.com.cn/html/index.asp
  17. MSI Movie Station HD1000 http://www.msi-computer.de/index.php...&prod_no=10050
  18. dsb ...

Informasi Menarik tentang Media Player & Chip Realtek :
Forum :
Informasi di Kaskus :
Komunitas Pengguna Playon!HD

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Secara umum features Media Player Realtek adalah sbb :
  • Decode and output High Definition 1080p video and Photo.
  • Support internal SATA hard drive up to 2.0TB (tipe tertentu)
  • Support Mainstream formats of HD video including MPEG-2, VC-1, H.264/AVC and RMVB HD.
  • Support DTS HD Downmix Via HDMI
  • Within the next generation interface - HDMI 1.3 output.
  • Ethernet port supports Network player function.
  • NAS function share the hard drive and USB device to the network (tipe tertentu)
  • High performance video playback. Experience fluent playback control like Zoom out/in, Pan the picture, Fast Forward, Fast Reverse, Slow-motion.
  • Fully supports the subtitle format. Dynamically change the subtitle display by remote control.
  • Photo playback via HD. Supports Up to 40 mega-pixel photo files, 16X Zoom in, 3-direction rotation.
  • Slide show mode with 8 kinds of transition effect. Background music playback is supported.
  • Rich types of music file. The playback function includes Fast Forward, Fast Reverse, Repeat, Shuffle and Shuffle Repeat.
  • Within USB 2.0 port, plug-and-play the USB Flash Drive, USB Mobile Hard Disk Drive , USB Card Reader, USB DVD-ROM*, USB Wi-Fi Dongle (Hanya USB yang berbasis Realtek).
  • Easy to use and intuitive control. Change to setup menu at any time even in media playing to provide the fluent control.

General Specification :
  • HDD Support: 3.5" SATA hard drive up to 2.0TB (Tipe tertentu)
  • ESata Support (Tipe terntentu)
  • Card Reader Support (Tipe terntentu)
  • Disc format: FAT16/FAT32/NTFS/UDF/EXT3
  • Subtitle: Chinese Traditional/Chinese Simplified/UTF8/Korean/Japanese/dsb (tergantung vendor)
  • Resolution: 1080p
  • Aspect ratio: Pan Scan 4:3 / Letterbox 4:3 /16:9
  • Interface: Video: CVBS YPbPr HDMI 1.3
  • Audio: AUDIO L/R S/PDIF, TOSLINK
  • USB: USB 2.0, 5V-1000mA
  • USB DVD-ROM: DVD Disc playback
  • USB Wireless dongle:Realtek USB WiFi dongle, SAMBA client, UPnP
  • MOVIE Video: MPEG-1 (DAT / MPG / MPEG); MPEG-2 (MPG / MPEG / VOB / ISO / IFO / TS / TP) MPEG-4 (MP4 / AVI / MOV); DivX 3/4/5/6, Xvid (AVI / MKV) H.264 AVC (TS / AVI / MKV / MOV) VC-1 (TS / AVI / MKV / WMV); WMV 9 (WMV); Real Video HD 8/9/10 (RM / RMVB); FLV (FLV)
  • MOVIE Audio: Dolby Digital AC3, DTS, DTS-HD Downmix, MPEG-I Layer 1/2/3, MPEG-II Layer 1/2 multichannel, Real Audio, MPEG-4 HE AACv2, LPCM; Support 7.1 audio channels
  • MOVIE Subtitle: srt, sub, smi, idx+sub**, ssa, DVD subtitle, DivX subtitle
  • MUSIC: MP3, WMA, WAV, ASF, AAC, OGG Vorbis, FLAC, iTune, M4A(AAC), M3U(Playlist)
  • PHOTO: JPG(40-mega pixel without limitation of resolution, Baseline), BMP, PNG, GIF, TIF, TIFF

Note

*USB DVD-ROM doesn't support playback of CSS-protected DVD Video.
**When playing the HD video, the display position of the subtitle could be in the higher part of the TV picture. Only the subtitle format idx + sub can maintain the same position as playing in the SD video.


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Kelebihan, Kekurangan, Kisaran Harga, Faqs

Kelebihan dan Kekurangan Chip Realtek 1073 secara umum sbb:

Kelebihan :
  • Relatif lebih murah dibandingkan MediaPlayer berbasis chip Sigma
  • Bisa memainkan file format RM/RMVB, chip Sigma 8635 tidak bisa
  • Bisa menampilkan full menu DVD movie (ISO dan Disc)
  • ....

Kekurangan :
  • Belum bisa men-decode HD Audio dan melakukan HD Audio passthrough????
    DTS Master Audio mungkin sudah bisa, Dolby True HD (belum bisa)???
    Revisi : dengan munculnya update chip 1073C+ dan firmware sekitar Agustus 2010, masalah HD Audio passthrough bisa diatasi.
  • Belum bisa memainkan FULL BD-menu navigation /incl BD-J
  • .....


Kisaran Harga :
Sampai saat ini, Media Player berbasis Realtek dijual di Indonesia dari mulai harga 1 juta sampai yang termahal 2 juta rupiah. Harga tergantung vendor dan feature yang tersedia.

Lapak Penjual
Media Player berbasis Realtek bisa Anda dapatkan di sini :
  1. AC Ryan Playon : Kaskus FJB, Enter Komputer, Rakitan.com
  2. Astone Media Gear : Enter Komputer, Viraindo, Rakitan.com
  3. Egreat EG-R1 : FJB, Kolektorfilm.com
  4. Patriot Box Office : Enter Komputer
  5. Seagate Freeagent Theater : Enter Komputer, Rakitan.com
  6. Zinwell : FJB, Kolektorfilm.com
  7. Blue Times : Kolektorfilm.com
  8. Mede8er : FJB Kaskus
  9. HiMedia HD 300A : FJB
  10. TRANSCEND HD Media Player DMP10 : FJB

Buyer Guide :
1. Anda mencari Media Player Realtek paling berkualitas menurut review2, silakan pilih :
  1. Mede8er MED500X
  2. A.C.Ryan PlayOn!HD

2. Anda mencari yang paling murah, silakan pilih :
  1. Astone AP-110D :900rb kurang
  2. Zinwell ZIN-5005 HDmin : 1 juta
  3. PATRIOT Box Office + Wifi Dongle : 1 jutaan


FAQS
  1. Sudah bisa DTS downmix gak?
    Dengan revisi hardware chip 1073DD, semua Media Player berbasis chip ini sudah bisa DTS Downmix. Umumnya player keluaran akhir 2009 sudah bisa DTS downmix, kecuali utk alasan tertentu (harga) mugkin masih ada yang menggunakan chip lama 1073DA yg tidak bisa DTS downmix
  2. Sudah bisa HD Audio (7.1) Passthrough?
    Pastikan player yang Anda beli sudah menggunakan chip Realtek 1073C+ atau 1073DD C+ dan 1283C+ (utk yang bisa rekam). Beberapa vendor menambahkan tanda + pada nomor seri player mereka, misalnya Playon!HD dan Playon!HD Mini with : ACR-PV73100P+ dan ACR-PV73200P+.


Pengguna Realtek Mediaplayer di Kaskus :

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HD Media Player : Astone Media Gear AP-300
Firmware : 1.75
TV : LG 21" CRT
Koneksi Video : Component
Sound System : Logitech Z-5300
Koneksi Audio : Digital Coaxial
HDD : WDC 1TB SATA 64MB - Green Power (internal), WD Passport Essential 320GB (eksternal)
Tambahan : Router Linksys WRT54GL, WD Myworld Edition 500 GB
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HD Media Player : Mede8er MED500x
Firmware : V2.0.2 soon will be V3.00
TV : CRT 21" LG Flat
Koneksi Video : Component cable
Sound System : -
Koneksi Audio : RCA
HDD : WDC Green 1.5TB (NTSC) + Pendrive sense 160 GB
Tambahan : -
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Originally Posted by berjka2 View Post
HD Media Player : Ac ryan play on mini
Firmware : belum tau
TV : LG 32lg53fr
Koneksi Video : hdmi 1.3
Sound System : belum ada
Koneksi Audio : belum ada
HDD : WD Passport Essential 320GB (eksternal)
Tambahan : Router belkin, mau konek pc ke hd player tapi belum sempet beli kabel utp kros
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daftar KTP Realtek juragan

HD Media Player : Astone AP-360T
Firmware : V1.81
TV : Monitor LG E2250V 21.5"
Koneksi Video : HDMI
Sound System : Phillips headset jack 3.5mm on monitor
Koneksi Audio : HDMI
HDD : WDC Green 1TB (tapi lagi kena masyalah.. )..
MAxtor onetouch5 2.5" 120GB (campur dengan data juga)
WD Passport 2.5" 120GB (campur dengan data juga)
Tambahan : -
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HD Media Player : Mede8er Med500x
Firmware : V.3 Beta, rilis 1 April <-- mudah2an bukan April Mop
TV : Sony LCD 40"
Koneksi Video : HDMI
Sound System : Marantz Receiver + Paradigm Speakers + Onkyo Sub
Koneksi Audio : Digital Optical
HDD : WDC 1,5TB SATA (internal), External ada 2x1,5Tb lagi, lom cari docking with USBnya
Tambahan : Wifi dongle dari mede8er, keselip baru mo dikirim ama seller, lol
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ikutan mantau & sharing...
- Mediaplayer : Blue Times, pake firmware bawaan
- TV : LCD Sharp 32A53 via HDMI
- AV Receiver : Yamaha RXV-440 jadul via coaxial cable plus rca stereo (in case gak bisa via digital tinggal pencet analog input di yamaha)
- HDD : Internal WDC 500 GB plus External 320 GB
- Speaker : front pake Infinity, center + rear pake JBL
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Originally Posted by tothetop78 View Post
HD Media Player : AC Ryan Play On
Firmware : Beta r3643
TV : LCD Samsung B450
Koneksi Video : HDMI
Audio Receiver : Sony STR-K750P DTS/Dolby Digital 5.1
Koneksi Audio : Optical
HDD : 2 x WDC 1.5TB SATA 64MB - Green Power
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Originally Posted by biruwarnangkasa View Post
absen dulu nih

HD Media Player : AC Ryan Play On
Firmware : blom ngecek
TV : LCD 32LG53FR
Koneksi Video : HDMI Monster M1000
Audio Receiver : Logitech Z5500
Koneksi Audio : Coaxial Monster Cable
HDD : 1 x WDC 1TB SATA 64MB - Green Power
1 x WDC 1TB Ext WD Essential
1 x 1TB Seagate Ext

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ok degh, gua pengguna AC Ryan jadi numpang parkir ID ya boss
Silakan bro, gw sendiri pengguna Astone
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Silakan bro, gw sendiri pengguna Astone
astone sudah stabil bro ? baca2 di forum katanya firmware seri tertentu bisa isi HDD tiba2 ke delete.
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astone sudah stabil bro ? baca2 di forum katanya firmware seri tertentu bisa isi HDD tiba2 ke delete.
Yang rawan hilang data adalah seri AP 300, ini yang saya punya dan AP 360-T (semua bisa HDD internal). Cuman belum saya pasang HDD internal. Pilihan saya menggunakan seri ini karena harganya, lebih murah dari WDTV Live tapi sudah ada slot internal HDD 3,5' sata.

Tapi menurut di forum, untuk pencegahan, HDD-nya harus dipartisi menjadi beberapa partisi. Partisi pertama sebaiknya kecil saja, karena partsisi ini yang rawan kecelakan terhapusnya data. Partisi kedua dan seterusnya katanya sih aman.

Jadi solusinya utk sementara adalah upaya pencegahan ..

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Issue hangat yang paling menarik saat ini adalah :

Semua Media Player berbasis chipset Realtek 1073 belum bisa melakukan HD Audio Passthrough

Bagi yang tidak memiliki A/V Receiver HD dan tidak berniat memilikinya , kasus ini tidak menjadi masalah, beda dengan kasus DTS Downmix yang menyebabkan tidak bisanya mendengarkan suara utk movie ber-sound DTS.

Apakah ini bug di software/firmware?
Apakah hardware limitation?
Apakah masalah lisensi?

Sampai saat ini tidak ada penjelasan resmi dari pihak Realtek....

Bagi Anda yang berniat membeli Media Player dengan keharusan bisa HD Audio Passthrough, sebaiknya menghindari Media Player ini , sampai saat ini statusnya masih dipertanyakan....

Ada info lain???


FYI :

HD Audio saat ini terdiri dari DTS-HD dan Dolby TrueHD ...

Dari Wikipedia :

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DTS-HD Master Audio is a lossless audio codec created by Digital Theater System. It was previously known as DTS++.[1] It is an extension of DTS which, when played back on devices which do not support the Master Audio or High Resolution extension, degrades to a "core" track which is lossy. DTS-HD Master Audio is an optional audio format for both Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD. DTS-HD Master Audio has been steadily becoming the standard for Blu-ray lossless audio format.

One goal of the DTS-HD Master Audio format was to allow a bit-to-bit representation of the original movie's studio master soundtrack. To accomplish this, DTS-HD MA supports variable bit rates up to 24.5 Mbit/s on a Blu-ray Disc and up to 18.0 Mbit/s for HD DVD. The format supports a maximum of 192 kHz sampling frequency and 24-bit depth samples in 2 channels stereo mode, and 96 kHz/24bit resolution in multichannel mode with up to 8 channels.

DTS-HD Master Audio may be transported to AV receivers in 5.1, 6.1 or 7.1 channels, at full uncompressed quality, in one of three ways depending on player and/or receiver support
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Dolby TrueHD is an advanced lossless multi-channel audio codec developed by Dolby Laboratories which is intended primarily for high-definition home-entertainment equipment such as Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD. It is the successor to the AC-3 Dolby Digital surround sound codec which was used as the audio standard for DVD discs. In this application, Dolby TrueHD competes with DTS-HD Master Audio, another lossless codec from Digital Theater System.

Dolby TrueHD uses Meridian Lossless Packing (MLP) as its mathematical basis for compressing audio samples. MLP was used on the earlier DVD-Audio format, but details of Dolby TrueHD and DVD-Audio differ substantially. A Dolby TrueHD bitstream can carry up to 14 discrete sound channels. Sample depths up to 24 bits/sample and audio sample rates up to 192 kHz are supported. Like the more common legacy codec Dolby Digital, Dolby TrueHD bitstreams carry program metadata. Metadata is separate from the coding format and compressed audio samples, but stores relevant information about the audio waveform. For example, dialog normalization and Dynamic range compression are controlled by metadata embedded in the TrueHD bitstream.

Dolby TrueHD may be transported to AV receivers in 5.1 or 7.1 channels, at full uncompressed quality, in one of three ways depending on player and/or receiver support
Dari iboum.com
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HD-Audio Explained
The advent of HD video content has seen a corresponding switch to HD-Audio. You will see much mention of the various confusing standards. This page attempts to explain in relatively easy to understand terms what it's all about. Two competing companies have issued standards for HD-Audio, Dolby and DTS (Digital Theatre System), these will be dealt with in turn.

Dolby Digital (Also known as AC-3)
Dolby Digital is a required standard of both Blu-Ray and DVD and the most widely supported HD-Audio format, being supported by all the Media Players on our site. It is a 'lossy' format so is of a lesser quality than the original cinema/studio original. Surround sound up to 5.1 channel is supported. The Dolby Digital audio track can either be decoded (downmixed) to stereo in the Media Player or digitally bitstreamed direct (passthrough) to a compatible receiver (via TOSLINK/Coaxial/HDMI) for decoding.

Dolby Digital Plus (E-AC3)
Dolby Digital Plus is an enhanced version of Dolby Digital offering higher bit-rates and the possibility for 7.1 surround sound. Although better quality than Dolby Digital, it is still a 'lossy' format. Dolby Digital Plus is little used and has largely been passed over in favour of higher quality lossless formats.

Dolby TrueHD
Dolby TrueHD is a lossless compression format giving audio identical to the original studio recording. It can handle 14 separate channels for surround sound. Dolby TrueHD is completely separate from Dolby Digital AC-3, so files carrying TrueHD audio must also carry a separate AC-3 track to make them playable on non TrueHD players. Dolby TrueHD can either be downmixed in the player to an analogue format, or bitstreamed via HDMI 1.3 or higher* to a compatible receiver. A hardware bug prevents any Realtek based player from passing full Dolby TrueHD, making the Sigma chipset players your only choice for Dolby TrueHD passthrough.
*TOSLINK or Coaxial S/PDIF cannot carry a TrueHD signal because the S/PDIF standard was finalised long before lossless HD-Audio was envisaged (despite S/PDIF being theoretically able to cope with the bandwidth). HDMI 1.3 or higher is therefore the only way to pass Dolby TrueHD audio.

DTS (Digital Theater System)
DTS is a required standard of both Blu-Ray and DVD players and is widely regarded to produce audio quality superior to Dolby Digital. Up to 5.1 channel surround sound is supported. DTS is a 'lossy' compression standard so the audio is of a lesser quality than the original studio recording. Until recently many Media Players did not support DTS so you would get no audio at all when playing back files with a DTS audio track (many .mkv files). The DTS audio track can either be decoded (downmixed) in the Media Player to stereo or digitally bitstreamed direct (passthrough) to a compatible receiver (via TOSLINK/Coaxial/HDMI) for decoding. Any decent new Media Player will be able to both downmix and passthrough DTS.

DTS-HD HR (High Resolution / DTS+)
DTS-HD High Resolution is an enhanced version of DTS offering higher bit-rates and better compression. Up to 7.1 channel surround sound is supported. It is still a 'lossy' format and is not widely used, having been largely passed over in favour of lossless formats. DTS-HD HR uses a core+extension format so if your player doesn't support DTS-HD HR then the DTS core can be extracted.

DTS-HD MA (Master Audio / DTS++)
DTS-HD Master Audio is a lossless compression format giving audio identical to the original studio recording. It supports up to 8 channels for surround sound. Unlike Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD MA works in a core+extension configuration so players that do not support it can extract the DTS core audio. DTS-HD MA can either be downmixed to an analogue format if supported by the player, or bitsreamed via HDMI 1.3* to a compatible receiver. A hardware bug prevents any Realtek based player from passing full DTS-HD MA, making the Sigma based players your only choice for DTS-HD MA passthrough.

*TOSLINK or Coaxial S/PDIF cannot carry a DTS-HD MA signal because the S/PDIF standard was finalised long before lossless HD-Audio was envisaged (despite S/PDIF being theoretically able to cope with the bandwidth). HDMI 1.3 or higher is therefore the only way to pass Dolby TrueHD audio.

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jadi kalo playon bisa DTS downmix ato ngga gan?maaf ane agak kurang paham ama penjelesannya..
Semua produk Media Player dengan chipset 1073DD sudah bisa DTS Downmix, umumnya produk media player keluaran akhir 2009 sudah bisa DTS downmix.

Jadi PlayOn pasti bisa DTS Downmix.

Produk Realtek sebelumnya (generasi 2008) menggunakan chip 1073DA belum bisa DTS downmix, kasus ini sama dengan chip Sigma (menimpa WDTV versi awal) tidak bisa DTS downmix, sehingga harus ada revisi hardware.

Yang belum bisa itu adalah mengirim signal HD Audio : DTS-HD dan Dolby Dolby TrueHD (7.1) secara RAW via HDMI dan SPDIF ,,,,CMIIW.

Sori gw juga belum test karena tidak punya receiver 7.1 ....kalau sourcenya DTS/Dolby biasa (5.1) GAK MASALAH ....

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tadi ke pameran lihat astone modelnya kok kayak zinwell ya? ngincer yang bisa PVR sekitar 1,5jt. tapi begitu liat di-forum-nya agak mikir juga kalo bisa ngapus sendiri.
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tadi ke pameran lihat astone modelnya kok kayak zinwell ya? ngincer yang bisa PVR sekitar 1,5jt. tapi begitu liat di-forum-nya agak mikir juga kalo bisa ngapus sendiri.
Wah udah ada ya seri AP-360T, kalo harga sekitar 1,5 jt termasuknya murah dengan kemampuan bisa TV digital+PVR, soal bisa menghapus sendiri flenya, hanya terkena kepada HDD internal dan bisa dicegah dengan multi partisi.

Lihat di pameran apa bro? Mega Bazar???

Soal bentuk mirip Zinwell ya mau gimana lagi, chipsetnya sama2 Realtek. Implementasi hardware lain termasuk casingnya biasanya tidak jauh-jauh amat. Mirip2 juga gak masalah,bedanya kalau Zinwell perakitnya di China sedangkan Astone di Australia

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gan,

aku lagi minat nih ama HD media player,

lagi bingung antara Mede8er, ACRyan, ama ASTONE.

ada bedanya ga sih? selain dari harga ama model?
aku mau beli yg ada HDD internalnya

ada saran?
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gan,

aku lagi minat nih ama HD media player,

lagi bingung antara Mede8er, ACRyan, ama ASTONE.

ada bedanya ga sih? selain dari harga ama model?
aku mau beli yg ada HDD internalnya

ada saran?
Kalau bingung cek saja review di MPC Club .... : Mede8er, ACRyan masuk TOP 5 RealTek ....jika pertimbangannya kualitas dan fitur yang lebih banyak, silakan memilih salah satu dari dua merk itu.

Jika masalah harga jadi pertimbangan penting, silakan memilih yang paling murah, karena fitur dasarnya pasti sama saja, toh sama2 Realtek 1073DD. Hanya kembangannya saja yang berbeda, tergantung vendor+developernya.

Jangan lupa support forumnya dicek juga, jika ada masalah bisa komplain via forum langsung ke developernya.

Garansi lokal-nya jangan lupa juga, jika disupport oleh distributor besar mungkin lebih aman. Setahu saya garansi Astone dipegang oleh Atikom.
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Bagi yang ingin memilih media player, silakan simak info dibawah.

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This category is where all the action is. In total there are 30 players, with 27 Realteks and 3 Sigma 865xs. All of the new players this month except the Myka ION and Fantec MM-FHDL are included here. The Ellion Labo 110, Sumvision Cyclone MKV, Prodigi PD-100N, Hisense MP800H, and Brite-View HDPrimo BV-6000P are all Realtek 1073 based. As there are now so many Realtek players the new additions will have to do something different in order to stand out.

Of this new bunch, only the Ellion Labo 110 and Hisense manage to do this. The Ellion has a superficially improved user interface and the Hisense is the cheapest Realtek Media Player so far, coming in at £61. The Hisense as a unit is nothing special, the firmware is the basic Realtek (albeit with regular updates) and the build quality has been reported as not being that impressive. But it is basically identical to the rest and is only £61! The Ellion Labo 110 impresses by utilising a new and slick Realtek user interface. It is certainly an improvement in looks over the other Realteks even if the Ellion firmware is some way behind the best in features and functionality.

Of the other Realteks, the big mover this month has been the ACRyan PlayOn!HD. The latest v7.06.r2388 firmware release catches up with the Xtreamer is all the key areas (HD-Audio, BD-ISO, DVD support) and when you add the torrent downloading feature that has always been present in the Play!On, it makes this player well worth a look. A forum post this month showed some pictures of what is supposedly the next ACRyan firmware. It looks very nice and shows that ACRyan are planning for a shiny future. Whether this is Realtek SDK3 (so other players will also get it) or not is something we will only find out over the next few months.

The Xtreamer fan issue has largely been resolved. Reports are that the newer units are quieter than those from the intial batches, and there are now a couple of relatively inexpensive passive coolers you can fit that let you turn off the fan completely. In resepct to this, as far as we can tell nobody has managed to permanently break an Xtreamer by running it in it's standard configuration with the fan turned off. Interestingly, some Realtek players have fans and some don't. It seems that the Realtek chip can be run without a fan, albeit running relatively warm.

The Xtreamer has had a number of incremental firmware releases this month, continuing it's impressive release schedule. Our best player from September, the Brite-View CinemaTube BV-5005HD is starting to lag seriously behind in terms of firmware releases. It is still using Realtek SDK 1 and has poor HD-Audio support compared to the best Realteks. We are dissapointed in this player since the Briteview people are so vocal and promise so much on forums.

The other Realteks are very much of a muchness. They all have similar interfaces on top of near identical hardware with uncertain firmware update prospects. The problem (if it is a problem) is that the basic Realtek firmware is technically very capable. Hence every Realtek player is a very capable Media Player with great performance and format support. It becomes very difficult to differentiate between them. We advise that you look at our product pages for a player you're interested in, check out the forums, and make your choice.
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Wah udah ada ya seri AP-360T, kalo harga sekitar 1,5 jt termasuknya murah dengan kemampuan bisa TV digital+PVR, soal bisa menghapus sendiri flenya, hanya terkena kepada HDD internal dan bisa dicegah dengan multi partisi.

Lihat di pameran apa bro? Mega Bazar???

Soal bentuk mirip Zinwell ya mau gimana lagi, chipsetnya sama2 Realtek. Implementasi hardware lain termasuk casingnya biasanya tidak jauh-jauh amat. Mirip2 juga gak masalah,bedanya kalau Zinwell perakitnya di China sedangkan Astone di Australia
bener di mega bazar jakarta;
ap-32b 625rb
ap-110 1056rb
ap-200 1162rb
ap-300 1320rb
ap-360t 1535rb

sebetulnya belum pasti zinwell cuman kalo dilihat di-brosur-nya gambar barang dan flow-chartnya mirip. bisa jadi si-astone beli oem zinwell kemudian tempel merek, maklum kenal zinwell waktu masih produksi multiswitch parabola analog.

kalo si-ryan dan si-menderer emang persis casingnya (ngga tahu hd-nya menderer bermasalah juga engga ya kayak si-ryan), tapi si-sigma udah mulai keluar yang baru pakai produk popcorn -jadi tambah bingung dah.
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bener di mega bazar jakarta;
ap-32b 625rb
ap-110 1056rb
ap-200 1162rb
ap-300 1320rb
ap-360t 1535rb

sebetulnya belum pasti zinwell cuman kalo dilihat di-brosur-nya gambar barang dan flow-chartnya mirip. bisa jadi si-astone beli oem zinwell kemudian tempel merek, maklum kenal zinwell waktu masih produksi multiswitch parabola analog.

kalo si-ryan dan si-menderer emang persis casingnya (ngga tahu hd-nya menderer bermasalah juga engga ya kayak si-ryan), tapi si-sigma udah mulai keluar yang baru pakai produk popcorn -jadi tambah bingung dah.
Di forum Astone gak ada info OEM Zinwell, tapi mirip ini gak?
http://www.i-bt.com.tw/ZP-600T.html
Terlalu banyak yang mirip kan???

btw harga pameran utk Astone kok overprice ya ...

Utk ap-300 gw dapat di kisaran 1,240jt di enter, kalau utk ap-110 malahan bisa dapat di bawah 1 juta kalau beli di viraindo ...
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Wah, pas banget neh.. Lagi pengen beli hdplayer..
Tadinya mau ambil wdtv dipasangin ma lcd monitor 22 LG fullhd via hdmi, buat suaranya pake speaker 2.1 sonic gear via rca audio to 3.5mm converter cable..
Pas nanya ma toko yang jualnya, bisa dites gak sebelum di beli..
Katanya ga bisa..
Soalnya masih ragu untuk hdmovie dengan dts sound, apakah bisa kedenger suaranya dengan konfigurasi diatas..?
Tolong dong bagi yang tau, sekaligus saran buat hdplayer yang worth to buy kisaran 1 - 1.3jt?
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Mau nanya kepada user Realtek lainnya, sebagai user Astone AP-300 ada satu kekurangan yang cukup mengganggu, yaitu setting audionya tidak bisa dinamis.

Misalnya begini (setting audio via optik) :

1. Untuk menonton film dengan Audio Multichanel (AC3/DTS) dengan pilihan setting SPDIF Raw jalan dengan mulus.
2. Kemudian mau nyetel MP3 yang cuman stereo atau film divx yg stereo juga, suaranya gak keluar.
3. Untuk keluar suaranya, setting harus diubah ke SPDIF LPCM ....

Jadi cape juga ngubah2 setting ini karena harus manual, tidak bisa mengikuti audionya yang tersedua di file.

Yang lain gimana? PlayOn? Mede8er?
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Wah, pas banget neh.. Lagi pengen beli hdplayer..
Tadinya mau ambil wdtv dipasangin ma lcd monitor 22 LG fullhd via hdmi, buat suaranya pake speaker 2.1 sonic gear via rca audio to 3.5mm converter cable..
Pas nanya ma toko yang jualnya, bisa dites gak sebelum di beli..
Katanya ga bisa..
Soalnya masih ragu untuk hdmovie dengan dts sound, apakah bisa kedenger suaranya dengan konfigurasi diatas..?
Tolong dong bagi yang tau, sekaligus saran buat hdplayer yang worth to buy kisaran 1 - 1.3jt?
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Dengan setting seperti itu belum bisa jawab karena, gw gak pake HDMI cuman component saja. Mungkin yang lain bisa jawab.

Jika harga menjadikan penentu utama, silakan lihat buyer guide di atas, dengan 1 juta sudah bisa memiliki HDPlayer dengan kemampuan setara WDTV Live (DTS Downmix, Network), beda harga 300rb lebih...bisa buat modal beli hardisk

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